Maintaining the Mount is a difficult thing to learn for most. For being such a powerful position, it certainly doesn’t always appear to be so. For a new student, the concept of the Mount is easy to understand. The theory of controlling one’s opponent from this position is sound, but something is lost in the transition to practical application. This is a fairly common situation for beginning students, but something that can be overcome in time.Like everything else in Jiu-Jitsu, it takes time to develop a solid Top Mount game. In the interim, many students find themselves being easily reversed and wind up on the bottom. In the hierarchy of positions, the Mount is second from the top, but all too often some students abandon this position early in their training because it’s more difficult to master. If you think about it this way, what are some of the easiest positions for you to “maintain” with zero effort on your part? The answer is simple, being Back Mounted, Top Mounted, or Side Mounted by your opponent. If you wanted to maintain any of these positions, you would put zero effort forth and do nothing. Now what are the most difficult positions to maintain and why? Do we simply abandon these positions because they’re more difficult to maintain? Do we play the high percentage game and not go for the Armbar from the Mount because it’s thought to be a low percentage move? Of course my answer is no. If you’ve already identified this as a weakness in your game, then logically this is one area you know you can concentrate on improving.
Once you’ve tackled this issue and become more proficient in maintaining the Mount, the issue then becomes one of weighing the risk between maintaining what you have versus sacrificing your position to go for a submission. If you get the submission, all is well, but if your opponent is able to defend and capitalize on your failed attempt, you could end up being reversed and again find yourself on the bottom.For most students it doesn’t take too long to figure out the percentage game and ultimately they settle on Side Mount as a safer option. It’s an overly crude analysis, but it’s no different than learning if you stick your hand into a flame, you’ll get burned, so don’t stick your hand in a flame. The difference is that with practice, you can become more proficient at maintaining the Mount and finishing your submissions. Sometimes it’s more about speed and fluidity, however sometimes it’s about balance and control.
The decision to go for the Armbar from Mount is a tough one. I almost always advocate that it’s more important to go for the submission. Of course, you will not always be able to finish the submission and you will have given up your dominate position. This could very well land you on the bottom. But if you don’t continue to try and learn how to execute the move correctly, you’ll find yourself always working towards a Judo pin rather than working towards a submission. Consequently, you’ll never get better at the Armbar from Mount.
Here is an excerpt from Stephen Kesting’s book, A Roadmap for Brazilian JiuJitsu.
"Going for that armbar means you run the risk of trading a superior position (Mount) for a neutral position (Guard). Some coaches will encourage you to try for that armbar and end the fight, while others will discourage it, arguing that risking top position is unacceptable.

As with all attempts to balance risk and reward, everyone has their own comfort zone. Some BJJ practitioners are perfectly happy to abandon top position if they think there is a chance that doing so could lead them to a successful submission, whereas more conservative grapplers prefer submissions that don't yield the top position should the attempt fail.
If you are competing in mixed martial arts (MMA), or are in a self-defense situation, then I would think long and hard before abandoning the precious top position. Being on the bottom in these contexts means that your opponent, with gravity on his side, could slip some heavy punches, elbows or headbutts through your defenses. If, on the other hand, you're doing sport BJJ or submission grappling, then you have a more latitude about ending up on the bottom. Being on the bottom in a sport BJJ context isn't the end of the world if you have a good Guard game.
One of the decisions you'll have to make at some point in your BJJ career is where YOU stand on the issue of keeping the top position. Even if you decide to become a die-hard top position player there are still several reasons why you should still learn and occasionally practice submissions with an inherent risk of you ending up on the bottom.
First, it may help your athletic development, and make you feel more comfortable in scrambles where positions aren't so clear cut and the role of the combatants (i.e. top vs. bottom) change very rapidly.
Second, an opponent may reverse you and send you to the bottom against your will - feeling comfortable with these techniques may allow you to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat en route to the bottom.
Finally, learning submissions that risk losing top position will improve your defense should an opponent try the same attack on you. The best way to counter a technique is to first learn how to do it yourself."
So my advice is to continue working on improving your Mount and continue working on improving those submissions from the Mount.





6 comments:
good point. i have found a nice recovery to dominant position if the armbar attempt fails.
when you get into position to apply the armbar (your bottom is on the ground and you are perpendicular to your opponent), if they start to get away and you can't regain to apply the sub, quickly swivel the legs and feet toward and above their head, bringing them all the way around to your back (kind of like the last step in applying omoplata), all the while working to quickly obtain chest on chest.
it isn't a return to mount, but it is side control and is a low risk recovering to dominant position.
just a thought. i've found this very fruitful . . . except when rolling with a particular guy that wears a black belt-i don't even know what he's doing to me most of the time.
fedor does a variation of it here at about 2:15. fedor isn't going for the armbar, but was trying to stop herring from going out the back door. still, its the gist of the movement and illustrates the point to recover mount:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiF3qiZKhdg
this works from the armbar position to recover side control.
Really interesting! Thanks!
Brent, thanks for the compliment, but we haven't rolled in awhile and you are getting better...who knows? I checked out the clip and see what you're referring to. (btw, Fedor is the man)
allbjjnews.com, thank you. Nice Website.
Thanks very much for this post. I am a beginner in Brazilian jiu-jitsu, eleven months, and I'm small compared to the other guys at my gym -- 5'11", 153 lbs. -- so the first thing I did was spend months on the bottom. I practiced hard first at mount escapes and guard recomposition, then at some sweeps; and now I'm surprised to find myself occasionally mounted on my opponent. But it's difficult to maintain the mount.
I'll think hard about what I've read here. Thanks again.
I'm always amazed at how someone in your situation learns the importance of technique much more quickly than larger, more muscular grapplers. Out of necessity, you've most likely honed your skills and are finding what works best for someone your size. You don't have the luxery of "cheating" the techniques with your size or muscle strength, so fucusing on body mechanics is the key. That mindset will continue to carry you to the next level.
Some of our smallest fighters (Andy and Carlos come to mind), are the hardest to handle. They constantly remind me that Jiu-Jitsu has little to do with size and strength. Good, solid technique always prevails.
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